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Title: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: seanjoe on February 08, 2013, 09:33:04 PM
Hi guys,
I have been struggling to find this information. I thought I had found this a couple of years ago.

There are a few sites that I have seen where you put the mobile number, and it tells you what network the number was originally on when it was first taken up, but does not have any porting information.

Does anyone know any website where you can input a ported mobile number as well and thus find out what its current network is?

Please help.


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: davegr on February 08, 2013, 11:01:26 PM
I know a service where you can pay for this ability, if it's that important to you?


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: seanjoe on February 09, 2013, 12:04:17 AM
Not that important. Its just that on my t-mobile tariff, they keep charging me randomly when i send texts to certain mobile numbers. now they claim that mvno's are not included in my text allowance which i think is stupid. the other time, they said that the number i sent a text to was an international located number, even though it was a uk mobile number . so they said, if the subscriber is located outside the uk with their mobile number, it will be an international text for me...all sounded very weird.

anyways, the link i was thinking about was a free one dave. which i just forgot.


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: delaro on February 09, 2013, 12:38:09 PM
Could we have the network lookup providers published??

dlR


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: BJ on February 10, 2013, 04:43:33 AM
This is a good site to look up any UK phone  number even partial ones.

http://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm

But he does not tell you where the mobile number currently resides,only its original network.


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: Dan on February 10, 2013, 09:03:26 AM
Not that important. Its just that on my t-mobile tariff, they keep charging me randomly when i send texts to certain mobile numbers. now they claim that mvno's are not included in my text allowance which i think is stupid. the other time, they said that the number i sent a text to was an international located number, even though it was a uk mobile number . so they said, if the subscriber is located outside the uk with their mobile number, it will be an international text for me...all sounded very weird.
anyways, the link i was thinking about was a free one dave. which i just forgot.

Text Bal to 150 free, for Allowance info; my 2012 plan shows *500 UK SMS incl MVNO's*

Which calls and text messages to mobile numbers are excluded from my allowance? (From T-Mobile)
Calls and texts to some numbers starting 07 are not included in your allowance. Excluded mobile numbers include (but are not limited to) numbers used to provide call forwarding services, as well as to some MVNO number ranges.
For a full list of 07 number ranges that are not included in allowances please visit the “help & Support” section of our website, t-mobile.co.uk. We may add numbers to the list of excluded mobile numbers from time to time at our discretion.
Please also note that if you are calling someone who has ported an excluded mobile number to another operator, calls to that number may still be excluded from your allowance.


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: delaro on February 10, 2013, 09:20:24 AM
Text Bal to 150 free, for Allowance info; my 2012 plan shows *500 UK SMS incl MVNO's*

Which calls and text messages to mobile numbers are excluded from my allowance? (From T-Mobile)
Calls and texts to some numbers starting 07 are not included in your allowance. Excluded mobile numbers include (but are not limited to) numbers used to provide call forwarding services, as well as to some MVNO number ranges.
For a full list of 07 number ranges that are not included in allowances please visit the “help & Support” section of our website, t-mobile.co.uk. We may add numbers to the list of excluded mobile numbers from time to time at our discretion.
Please also note that if you are calling someone who has ported an excluded mobile number to another operator, calls to that number may still be excluded from your allowance.

...in other words - get it escalated seanjoe ;)

;D


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: Dan on February 10, 2013, 09:53:01 AM
Hi guys,
I have been struggling to find this information. I thought I had found this a couple of years ago.
There are a few sites that I have seen where you put the mobile number, and it tells you what network the number was originally on when it was first taken up, but does not have any porting information.
Does anyone know any website where you can input a ported mobile number as well and thus find out what its current network is?
Please help.

There is a free/cheap (depending on your charge for voicemail) but limited way to check simply but using direct voicemail deposit to another number within voicemail if network supported, which normally only allows to same network, if given next step to leave message, number is on same network your calling from, if not on another. Same applies to any service which is on-net only to test, e.g. Magic numbers, Everyphone, T-Mobile family booster etc. This is the case with main networks, MVNO's should work the same, not 100% though.

Above method also takes into account ported numbers too  :)


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: Dan on February 10, 2013, 10:46:10 AM
Which calls and text messages to UK mobile numbers are included in my allowance? (From T-Mobile/2012 Plans)
Calls and texts to many of the most popular UK mobile numbers are included in your allowance. Inclusive calls currently include (but are not limited to) calls to the UK mobile numbers allocated to the national UK GSM cellular network operators T-Mobile, Orange, Hutchinson 3G, 02, and Vodafone. On this plan, calls to one of the mobile virtual network operators (MVNOs) exclusively using numbers allocated to these UK GSM cellular network operators (e.g. Virgin, Tesco, Fresh) are also included, as well as calls to most other MVNO number ranges, such as those currently allocated to LycaMobile.

Hope this helps clarify.


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: seanjoe on February 10, 2013, 02:58:00 PM
Which calls and text messages to UK mobile numbers are included in my allowance? (From T-Mobile/2012 Plans)
Calls and texts to many of the most popular UK mobile numbers are included in your allowance. Inclusive calls currently include (but are not limited to) calls to the UK mobile numbers allocated to the national UK GSM cellular network operators T-Mobile, Orange, Hutchinson 3G, 02, and Vodafone. On this plan, calls to one of the mobile virtual network operators (MVNOs) exclusively using numbers allocated to these UK GSM cellular network operators (e.g. Virgin, Tesco, Fresh) are also included, as well as calls to most other MVNO number ranges, such as those currently allocated to LycaMobile.

Hope this helps clarify.

HI Dan.
So your first set of conditions is different in terms of MVNO's? So is this one here the latest latest? I managed to get the charges reversed finally. but my question remains, how do we still determine before sending the text/call which MVNO it relates to?


Furthermore, I have not understood your "voicemail deposit" method.

So i guess no one knows any sites after porting which tells which network you on?


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: delaro on February 10, 2013, 04:09:28 PM
Furthermore, I have not understood your "voicemail deposit" method.

In theory - you can leave voicemail messages for free to other customers within the same operator.
If the system lets you leave a message to other customers' numbers on network 'A' it means that network 'A' operates/owns voicemail system.

dlR


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: Dan on February 10, 2013, 09:01:35 PM
In theory - you can leave voicemail messages for free to other customers within the same operator.
If the system lets you leave a message to other customers' numbers on network 'A' it means that network 'A' operates/owns voicemail system.
dlR

You've got it, as dlR.. seanjoe. Yes also free messages back & forth, e.g. OVP EQ Virgin on Orange.


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: seanjoe on February 10, 2013, 09:21:37 PM
In theory - you can leave voicemail messages for free to other customers within the same operator.
If the system lets you leave a message to other customers' numbers on network 'A' it means that network 'A' operates/owns voicemail system.

dlR

so you leave a voicemail by dialing the number first? is that how it works? and if they pick up the phone, then we will be charged? can you please explain it as i'm still confused...sorry a bit below normal iq i am.


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: Dan on February 10, 2013, 09:22:49 PM
HI Dan.
So your first set of conditions is different in terms of MVNO's? So is this one here the latest latest? I managed to get the charges reversed finally. but my question remains, how do we still determine before sending the text/call which MVNO it relates to?
Furthermore, I have not understood your "voicemail deposit" method.
So i guess no one knows any sites after porting which tells which network you on?

No, both terms apply. All I can see on T-Mobile is 07 calls/text maybe the same? -

Chargeable Outside of Allowances (Applicable to Customers joining after 1st February 2012 on PAYM 2012 & Full Monty plans)
074182
074409
077211
077856
078920
079788

Chargeable Outside of Allowances (Applicable to Customers joining before 1st February 2012)
07404 074406
07405 074407
07424 074409
07438 074413
07448 074414
07459 074418
07466 075206
07609 075207
07610 075371
07621 075373
07682 075592
07683 075594
07684 075599
074067 077211
074088 077856
074173 078220
074174 078221
074175 078222
074182 078224
074185 078226
074186 078744
074187 078920
074189 078925
074390 078930
074400 078931
074401 078938
074402 078939
074403 079112
074404 079118
074405 079788


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: jagga303 on February 12, 2013, 05:18:39 PM
This is a good site to look up any UK phone  number even partial ones.

http://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm

But he does not tell you where the mobile number currently resides,only its original network.
I'm sure this site tells you which network your number was originally from and which network it's currently on.
I just entered my number and under charging section it shows which network it was on originally. Under Locality or Use it shows current network.

For my number, the above was correct, original network and current network.

Has anyone else tried this and found out the same?

Jagga303


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: mobaholic on February 12, 2013, 05:31:39 PM
I'm sure this site tells you which network your number was originally from and which network it's currently on.
I just entered my number and under charging section it shows which network it was on originally. Under Locality or Use it shows current network.

For my number, the above was correct, original network and current network.

Has anyone else tried this and found out the same?

Jagga303

It doesn't work for me !        :'(

It shows correctly the originating network, but when I click on Locality, I get the nonsensical error message:-

Quote
Must Specify A Longer Partial Name to Search

I had actually specified the full number already !       ???

BTW there is no by use option as far as I can see.       ;)



Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: jagga303 on February 12, 2013, 05:37:15 PM
It doesn't work for me !        :'(

It shows correctly the originating network, but when I click on Locality, I get the nonsensical error message:-

I had actually specified the full number already !       ???

BTW there is no by use option as far as I can see.       ;)



Number   Locality or Use   Service   Charging              Operator
07816     Mobile EE         Mobile 2G/3G  FM4 Orange Mobile  EE

Mobaholic, you only need to enter your full mobile number in the box and click only "Lookup Number".

Then you will get all the details like above.

Jagga303



Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: mobaholic on February 12, 2013, 05:43:40 PM
Number   Locality or Use   Service   Charging              Operator
07816     Mobile EE         Mobile 2G/3G  FM4 Orange Mobile  EE

Mobaholic, you only need to enter your full mobile number in the box and click only "Lookup Number".

Then you will get all the details like above.

Jagga303

That is hardly what you claimed in your reply #14.

Amongst other things, you said:-

Quote
For my number, the above was correct, original network and current network.

My test showed the first part to be true, but the second part to be false.

It is that false part which I am challenging !        ::)

My test gave the correct originating network, as I expected, but it was quite unable to say my current network.        :'(



Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: jagga303 on February 12, 2013, 05:54:44 PM
That is hardly what you claimed in your reply #14.

Amongst other things, you said:-

My test showed the first part to be true, but the second part to be false.

It is that false part which I am challenging !        ::)

My test gave the correct originating network, as I expected, but it was quite unable to say my current network.        :'(


Well mobaholic, I'm still standing by what I said as for me it was correct. My current network is EE as shown under "Locality or use" and my original network was Orange as shown under "Charging".

It's only common sense that one should click on Lookup Number only. I don't understand why you would click on Lookup Locality?


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: jagga303 on February 12, 2013, 06:07:37 PM
Well I'm buggered  :o. I tried a few numbers to look up and now when I try the message comes up
"Sorry, No More Lookup Attempts Permitted at Present. Please Login as a Paid Member for more Attempts"


 


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: mobaholic on February 12, 2013, 06:09:11 PM
It's only common sense that one should click on Lookup Number only. I don't understand why you would click on Lookup Locality?

In that case I suggest you reread the confusing wording you wrote in your reply #14 !        ???

I wouldn't have clicked anything else - if you didn't say "Under Locality or Use it shows current network."

As I pointed out earlier, there is no Use you can click, but there is 'Lookup Locality' - which is what I tried after reading your confusing post.        :'(

A post that it works for you, when you have only moved from Orange to EE ( which the site treats as the same entity anyway ! ) is hardly helpful to others, for whom it will never work.

I ported from Orange to Giffgaff on the test number I input, but the site was entirely unable to determine my current network as being either O2, or it's MVNO Giffgaff.        ::)

Under Locality or Use it incorrectly stated "Mobile Everything Everywhere" - *which is no longer true* !

I therefore contend it can only determine the originating network, not the current one.


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: jagga303 on February 12, 2013, 06:12:41 PM
In that case I suggest you reread the confusing wording you wrote in your reply #14 !        ???

I wouldn't have clicked anything else - if you didn't say "Under Locality or Use it shows current network."

As I pointed out earlier, there is no Use you can click, but there is 'Lookup Locality' - which is what I tried after reading your confusing post.        :'(

A post that it works for you, when you have only moved from Orange to EE ( which the site treats as the same entity anyway ! ) is hardly helpful to others, for whom it will never work.

I ported from Orange to Giffgaff on the test number I input, but the site was entirely unable to determine my current network as being either O2, or it's MVNO Giffgaff.        ::)

Under Locality or Use it incorrectly stated "Mobile Everything Everywhere" - *which is no longer true* !

I therefore contend it can only determine the originating network, not the current one.

When I said "under Locality or Use" I meant once the results are displayed.
I'm sorry you got confused.
I'm sorry it didn't work for you.

It would be interesting to see other users results.


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: mobaholic on February 12, 2013, 06:22:52 PM
When I said "under Locality or Use" I meant once the results are displayed.
I'm sorry you got confused.
I'm sorry it didn't work for you.

It would be interesting to see other users results.

I accept that I confused clicking on 'Lookup Locality' for what you wrote about "under Locality or Use".

We both took the term 'under' in differing senses.        :'(

But the substantive issue is that I must still challenge your assumption - and assertion - that it can determine the current network for ANYONE !        :o

If you input an Orange number, still on Orange, it says "Mobile Everything Everywhere" under Locality or Use.
That is because the site treats Orange and EE as the same entity - *NOT* because it determined you had ported to EE !       ;)

( Try 07971 when the site lets you test a new number. )       ;)



Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: jagga303 on February 12, 2013, 06:28:38 PM
I accept that I confused clicking on 'Lookup Locality' for what you wrote about "under Locality or Use".

We both took the term 'under' in differing senses.        :'(

But the substantive issue is that I must still challenge your assumption - and assertion - that it can determine the current network for ANYONE !        :o

If you input an Orange number, still on Orange, it says "Mobile Everything Everywhere" under Locality or Use.
That is because the site treats Orange and EE as the same entity - *NOT* because it determined you had ported to EE !       ;)


Maybe you are right but I can't test that as I don't have Orange number.
My original number was on Orange and now it is on Virgin, so for me it showed up correct, but if what you are saying is correct then it will show it as EE if it treats Orange and EE as same.

Lets see what other users come up with.
Will check with 07971 number when it lets me.



Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: seanjoe on February 12, 2013, 11:02:34 PM
3 numbers tested:

1) original t-mobile, now giffgaff - 2nd part did not work
2) original orange, now orange - both worked
3) original o2, now orange - second part did not work

definitely not reliable website.


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: jagga303 on February 13, 2013, 02:28:38 AM
3 numbers tested:

1) original t-mobile, now giffgaff - 2nd part did not work
2) original orange, now orange - both worked
3) original o2, now orange - second part did not work

definitely not reliable website.
Thanks for this.
It seems mobaholic was correct after all.


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: BJ on February 13, 2013, 04:03:47 AM
definitely not reliable website.

Nonsense nothing wrong with the website.  ??? Just you trying to get it too do something it does not offer. :o

As i said in my original post .It does not tell you where the mobile number currently resides,only its original network.


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: BJ on February 13, 2013, 04:07:26 AM
Thanks for this.
It seems mobaholic was correct after all.

Yes mobaholic was and I did tell you in the first place it didnt offer that facility. :)


Title: Re: How to identify what network your mobile number is on (even after porting)
Post by: seanjoe on February 14, 2013, 08:33:48 PM
Yes mobaholic was and I did tell you in the first place it didnt offer that facility. :)

And BJ, that's why I put specifically on the title of the thread the words :"...even after porting". I know there are websites similar to what you have said.